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		<title>By: Mikko Moilanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikko Moilanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you of the great articles about G1 and the Leica. And congrats for getting the Leica. 

I have been reading a lot about G1, your experiences of using it are very interesting and shifts me more on to the point of buying it, but what still makes me uncertain is the image quality, which appears to be something coming from tiny censored point and shoots, even though pictures in dpreview showed excellent image quality no worse than in common DSLRs. Auto focus responsibility is another matter bringing plenty of uncertainty, yet it is said to be about similar with common DSLRs. And what about the future? I want G1 and that 17mm 1.7 prime lense from Panasonic, and I want to freaking use that lense for years and not see Panasonic calling it quits with MFT cameras. So, dunno. Life feels so hard at times for a man who lives in consumerists world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you of the great articles about G1 and the Leica. And congrats for getting the Leica. </p>
<p>I have been reading a lot about G1, your experiences of using it are very interesting and shifts me more on to the point of buying it, but what still makes me uncertain is the image quality, which appears to be something coming from tiny censored point and shoots, even though pictures in dpreview showed excellent image quality no worse than in common DSLRs. Auto focus responsibility is another matter bringing plenty of uncertainty, yet it is said to be about similar with common DSLRs. And what about the future? I want G1 and that 17mm 1.7 prime lense from Panasonic, and I want to freaking use that lense for years and not see Panasonic calling it quits with MFT cameras. So, dunno. Life feels so hard at times for a man who lives in consumerists world.</p>
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		<title>By: Egor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Egor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: You might want to read Sean Reid&#039;s review of the G1. In it, he performs extensive comparisons between a G1 and an M8 when each is fronted by a Leica 28 f/2 Summicron ASPH. I highly recommend subscribing to his site, if you don&#039;t. That said, I plan to perform some controlled &#039;testing&#039; of my own -- mounting several lenses on both the G1 and M8, and looking at the differences in the images. Ultimately, it&#039;s not really a showdown battle. Each camera has a very different purpose, so my hand reaches for the model that is best-suited for a particular photograph. But, like you, I&#039;m curious to see some image comparisons when the same subject is shot with the same lens, but on different cameras. Since the two cameras have such different crop factors, a direct comparison is impossible. When I do this &quot;test,&quot; I&#039;ll move each camera forward or backward so that they capture roughly the same field of view. Obviously, there are still many significant factors that prevent this from being a scientifically accurate comparison, but it should have &#039;real world&#039; significance.

Wahyu: I&#039;m very glad to see another Micro Four Thirds camera appear on the market. More cameras = more development = better cameras = better lens support. That said, the form factor of the E-P1 doesn&#039;t appeal to me, personally. Aesthetically, I very much like the appearance of the Olympus (much more than the G1) but, functionally, the G1 does more of what I need. Specifically, I need a street camera that can be zone focused, and I need a viewfinder. Zone focusing with the E-P1, like the G1, can be accomplished by mounting M-mount lenses. Viewfinders are another story. The G1 has one. The E-P1 doesn&#039;t. I find I simply cannot use a camera that has only a non-articulating LCD on its back panel. It&#039;s a fine form factor for the under-40 crowd. But, if you&#039;re over 40, it can be difficult to see the rear panel LCD well enough -- particularly if you&#039;re using it to focus manual, M-mount lenses. I could, of course, mount an optical viewfinder on the E-P1, but external viewfinders only let you frame a shot, not focus it. To focus I would need to use the rear-panel LCD. That means I would need to hold the camera at arm&#039;s length to focus. Once focused, I couldn&#039;t move the camera back to my eye because that would change the focus. That would necessitate moving my body toward the camera, so I could frame the shot through the external viewfinder. I&#039;d look like a guy that was dancing on the street with his camera. Inevitably, the cops would haul me in, and send me to the psych ward. Like I said, I hope the Olympus does very well, and that it entices more people into Micro Four Thirds. Different people need and want different types of cameras, and the E-P1 is certainly different from the G1 -- it&#039;s just not right for me, my eyes, or my methodologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: You might want to read Sean Reid&#8217;s review of the G1. In it, he performs extensive comparisons between a G1 and an M8 when each is fronted by a Leica 28 f/2 Summicron ASPH. I highly recommend subscribing to his site, if you don&#8217;t. That said, I plan to perform some controlled &#8216;testing&#8217; of my own &#8212; mounting several lenses on both the G1 and M8, and looking at the differences in the images. Ultimately, it&#8217;s not really a showdown battle. Each camera has a very different purpose, so my hand reaches for the model that is best-suited for a particular photograph. But, like you, I&#8217;m curious to see some image comparisons when the same subject is shot with the same lens, but on different cameras. Since the two cameras have such different crop factors, a direct comparison is impossible. When I do this &#8220;test,&#8221; I&#8217;ll move each camera forward or backward so that they capture roughly the same field of view. Obviously, there are still many significant factors that prevent this from being a scientifically accurate comparison, but it should have &#8216;real world&#8217; significance.</p>
<p>Wahyu: I&#8217;m very glad to see another Micro Four Thirds camera appear on the market. More cameras = more development = better cameras = better lens support. That said, the form factor of the E-P1 doesn&#8217;t appeal to me, personally. Aesthetically, I very much like the appearance of the Olympus (much more than the G1) but, functionally, the G1 does more of what I need. Specifically, I need a street camera that can be zone focused, and I need a viewfinder. Zone focusing with the E-P1, like the G1, can be accomplished by mounting M-mount lenses. Viewfinders are another story. The G1 has one. The E-P1 doesn&#8217;t. I find I simply cannot use a camera that has only a non-articulating LCD on its back panel. It&#8217;s a fine form factor for the under-40 crowd. But, if you&#8217;re over 40, it can be difficult to see the rear panel LCD well enough &#8212; particularly if you&#8217;re using it to focus manual, M-mount lenses. I could, of course, mount an optical viewfinder on the E-P1, but external viewfinders only let you frame a shot, not focus it. To focus I would need to use the rear-panel LCD. That means I would need to hold the camera at arm&#8217;s length to focus. Once focused, I couldn&#8217;t move the camera back to my eye because that would change the focus. That would necessitate moving my body toward the camera, so I could frame the shot through the external viewfinder. I&#8217;d look like a guy that was dancing on the street with his camera. Inevitably, the cops would haul me in, and send me to the psych ward. Like I said, I hope the Olympus does very well, and that it entices more people into Micro Four Thirds. Different people need and want different types of cameras, and the E-P1 is certainly different from the G1 &#8212; it&#8217;s just not right for me, my eyes, or my methodologies.</p>
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		<title>By: wahyu setiawan</title>
		<link>http://www.ultrasomething.com/photography/2009/06/the-m8ing-ritual-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>wahyu setiawan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve been reading your blog lately. this is a great article you have
there is new camera launch from Olympus, the Olympus E-P1. are you gonna try this cute camera? i think it is a promising camera for street photography

thanks for your great article
Wahuy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been reading your blog lately. this is a great article you have<br />
there is new camera launch from Olympus, the Olympus E-P1. are you gonna try this cute camera? i think it is a promising camera for street photography</p>
<p>thanks for your great article<br />
Wahuy</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this third part of an eloquently written series of experiences and observations it would be interesting (it begs) to see the image differences between the M8 and the G1 using the same lens.
Well done!
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this third part of an eloquently written series of experiences and observations it would be interesting (it begs) to see the image differences between the M8 and the G1 using the same lens.<br />
Well done!<br />
Michael</p>
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